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Martin Fritz's avatar

Quite a one-sided and unbalanced report for a "value analyst". Many courageous claims but no supporting quotes or figures. Look at the last couple of financial statements of BYD and compare them to Toyota's. Thumbs down for BYD. Dark factories are OK for smartphones or laptops but BYD does not assemble its cars in the dark. What you see in the video is the same as a Toyota factory, just without light. How many faults per produced unit has a BYD car compared to Toyota car? We don't know! What is the resale value of BYD battery car outside of China etc.? Compare the charts of the shares of BYD and Toyota and ask yourself: Why did Warren Buffett fully exit BYD? Compare the dividend of BYD and Toyota in the long run. You chose to ignore many aspects of this story to make a clickbait headline. Finally: The claim not to ever own any Japanese car companies shares (including Toyota!) is quite outrageous for a "value analyst".

Saurabh Belgaonkar's avatar

Hi. I agree with your assessment that the traditional Japanese auto industry will mostly collapse. I think Japan govt and leaders should accept this and focus on how to shift its manufacturing workforce to more productive sectors. One thing working in Japan's favor is that its population is declining, so its automotive manufacturing workforce can decline naturally if the EV transition is slow enough.

Also, I don't agree that solid-state batteries will save the Japanese industry. Even if they develop it by 2028, Chinese companies will mostly commercialize and mass-manufacture it. It has happened in solar panels, Li-ion batteries, OLED (Japan developed it in Korea, mass produced it). Japan has no big battery manufacturing company remaining (Panasonic is small compared to its Chinese rivals), and in general, Japanese businesses are much more risk-averse.

Also, reliability has been the USP for Japanese carmakers for a long time, and strength doesn't translate that well to EV's as they have way fewer parts. So, I was looking into what USP automobile manufacturers can have that Chinese manufacturers won't have. Only software can't be it because China is pretty good at software, and they can throw many cheap software engineers at it that Japan and I think any other country can't.

So, I think, the only USP non-Chinese automakers can have is semiconductors. I think the automakers that can become like Apple (i.e., the ones that can design their own semis, develop their own OS, and design their own car) will be the ones to survive. They need to control the whole stack where the majority of the value lies.

It's not an easy thing to do that why nobody expects Apple is good at it ( Samsung is good at hardware, poor in software, google poor at hardware, good in software). Due to owning the whole stack, Apple is able to release cheap products like Neo while maintaining the margins.

I personally think this is the only way; moreover, Chinese firms have a lot of restrictions in terms of semis, which is beneficial to other automakers.

I am not sure, though, whether Japanese automakers would be able to do this. The Japanese are not good at cutting-edge semiconductor design, nor are they good at software. Moreover, hardware software integration is one of the hardest things to do; that's why only Apple can do it successfully in consumer electronics.

I think Toyota should buy a semiconductor design startup in the USA and start sending Japanese engineers for training there. For the software they have woven, so it's fine. This change would be really hard, though, because of how flat the leadership hierarchy is at the top in Japanese companies. Like I read about Sony's downfall, and it seems their CEO knew Sony needed to focus on software, but because most of Sony's top leaders were hardware engineers, they didn't listen.

One thing though, is that people use cars for more years than electronics, so Toyota's reputation for quality should carry them for 10-15 years before people realize that reliability doesn't matter much for EVs. A decent enough time for change, which Sony didn't have. Also, Toyota's son is present in the company, and he is much more focused on the software side. From what I know, the Japanese are much more willing to listen to the founding family members, so he might be able to bring about the change that is required.

What is your opinion of this analysis? Thank you.

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